New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

[161617]

Is that system successful somewhere else?

[seanie]

So I'm told. Both the architects and the project manager have a lot of experience of school projects and they said it worked well elsewhere. Remember this isn't PPP funded, so there shouldn't be the access issues that sometimes arise when access has to be arranged with a third party.

[Betty Windsor]

[Scoop]

Broughton High School have all weather pitches, not freely accessible from what i see.

[seanie]

PPP...

[Betty Windsor]

[seanie]

I know at least one school in East Kilbride has that arrangement with no problems. Apart from that I can't remember. JM Architects have done scores of secondary schools in Scotland though, and the Project Manager said his kids' school had that arrangement and it worked fine.

[Betty Windsor]

[seanie]

Yes it does have a name. It would be mighty odd to build a school and not give it a name now wouldn't it?

Not sure when the school was built though or how long the arrangement has been in place.

[Betty Windsor]

So you don't have any actual evidence that it works well just the say so of the architect and the project manager? Have I got that right?

[seanie]

I have no particular cause to doubt them. Why wouldn't it work well?

[Betty Windsor]

[seanie]

Vandalism?

I'm sure PPAG will be bitterly disappointed when the school gets built, but I don't believe for one minute they'd resort to such destructive revenge.

You're judging them far too harshly.

[Makaveli]

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[Porty]

I believe the fact the pitches are fenced in may be confusing the issue. At the moment Portobello park has two pitches, they are accessible 24/7. They are accessible to humans, motor bikes , cycles, scooters, cars, dogs, and so on. There's no fence and no cat flap.

The new pitches will be accessible 24/7, (Floodlights go off mid- evening?)the fences will make them more secure and less susceptible to abuse or misuse. Humans will have the same access they do now but will likely use them a factor of 10 of 20 times more, simply because they are better, floodlit, all weather surface and high fencing behind the goals to mimimise the ball going over. In th event the cat flap system is abused or doesn't work. I suppose the council could close it off but that's hardly their fault.

So, its good to know the cat flap system works in East Kilbride but we have dozens of examples, right here in Edinburgh , where people can walk freely onto an open accessible football pitch and play.

Booking System; Porty PArk has a booking system at the moment, maybe they will use the same, i don't know> One thing for sure is that demand will rise. If its done smartly, in the evening we could have new power league type facility with six pitches.
Its true that casual users will not have access when the pitches are booked, exactly how it is at the moment.

[Epykat]

[Epykat]

[Porty]

You surprised Seanie?

[Puerto bella]

[Epykat]

[seanie]

[Puerto bella]

I'm telling......

[Epykat]

[161617]

has the council actually said that they will allow "free" access to these pitches or will people have to pay.

[seanie]

[Epykat]

[seanie]

[Epykat]

[seanie]

[161617]

outside of what? So what appear to be saying that there will be paid access and then the lights will go off!

[Epykat]

[Puerto bella]

Regardless of the school, I am interested in why Sean has such faith in an organisation almost to a point I would call blinkered faith?
Is it for the same reason you could not conceive that people play their cards close to their chest or such things as spin, tactics and gameplay exist. I thought you were a grown up or at least enlightened a bit about development matters.

[seanie]

[seanie]

[Puerto bella]

is that your answer to every question you dont feel you can answer?