Waterfront Communities Project

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Waterfront Communities Project

Postby Bob Jefferson » 01 Jun 2005, 19:21

Some of you may have taken part in the consultation at the weekend. Here's another opportunity to ensure Portobello isn't forgotten about. The following from Maureen Child:

Dear All

There is a 'Have Your Say' day at Ocean Terminal on Saturday 4 June which you might like to know about and have to opportunity to see. This is as much notice as I got too!

The Council and Heriot Watt University planning students re trying to ensure the involvement of existing resident in creating a unified vision for the waterfront. Two of them were in Portobello last Saturday talking to about nearly 200 people in the Library and Scotmid. Most of the huge development opportunities - that is, large land banks - are in Granton and Leith Docks, but we in Portobello will have our say too and they should have a lot to learn from us.

This project is part if Edinburgh's contribution to the EU Waterfront Communities Project - a learning network of nine cities who are redeveloping their waterfront. Each city is experimenting with new ways of tackling a particular challenge of waterfront development - such as integrating new and existing communities. The Waterfront Communities Project links nine North Sea gateway cities in innovative sustainable waterfront development. The project is supported by the European Union through the Interreg IIIB programme.

One of the aims of this seven week long community planning project is to collect background information on how each neighbourhood along the waterfront sees itself to be physically and socially integrated with both the waterfront and what's going on there.

There is an opportunity to learn more about what's happening both in Edinburgh and other waterfront cities and to feed back your views to Council officers on Saturday 4 June in Ocean Terminal shopping Centre.

The project can also be contacted as follows:

Waterfront Communities Project
City of Edinburgh Council, City Development
PO Box 12473, 1 Cockburn Street, Edinburgh EH1 1ZH

Tel: 469 3652

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Postby Bob Jefferson » 01 Jun 2005, 22:07

And here's the poster for the event:

Waterfront Communities Day
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Postby Brian McCrow » 05 Jun 2005, 11:31

I had a very useful conversation at Ocean Terminal yesterday with Sara Thiam, Overall Project Manager and Kate Evans, Edinburgh Project Manager for the Waterfront project. They are the Council workers who used the Heriot Watt students to collect some initial information. This project encompasses the North European Waterfronts including Newcastle, Hull, Holland, Germany, Sweden, Denmark .

They have European funding to produce a FULLY documented plan to create sustainable, economically vibrant and socially inclusive waterfront areas in european cities and to reconnect the city to the sea. This funding extends up to 2007.

Edinburgh's specific theme is the Integration of Waterfront development with City and Regional strategic objectives. Each partner has separate themes e.g. Gateshead has - 21st century city-living for Europe: Mixed use with affordable housing.

Sara and Kate would like to meet with people in Portobello to understand our views for Portobello. I think the first step should be via the Portobello Community Council before widening it to the whole Community.
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Postby Maria » 05 Jun 2005, 11:45

I took part in an interview yesterday with a local Heriot Watt student as part of this project.

My understanding was that the project is looking at ways of consulting with local communities in the widest sense possible and not just with groups/individuals that already have a means of expressing their voice e.g. PAS, Community Council etc., hence the approach of setting up their stalls in public areas such as Ocean Terminal and Scotmid. I'm surprised you got such a positive response to your suggestion that the CC ought to be their starting point Brian as I certainly didn't think that was what they wanted at all :?
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Postby Gemini » 05 Jun 2005, 12:48

Marya wrote:I took part in an interview yesterday with a local Heriot Watt student as part of this project.

My understanding was that the project is looking at ways of consulting with local communities in the widest sense possible and not just with groups/individuals that already have a means of expressing their voice e.g. PAS, Community Council etc., hence the approach of setting up their stalls in public areas such as Ocean Terminal and Scotmid. I'm surprised you got such a positive response to your suggestion that the CC ought to be their starting point Brian as I certainly didn't think that was what they wanted at all :?


The subject of wider community consultation on issues concerning Portobello etc ,was raised by Carla at Monday's CC meeting.
Which I, and many other smaller groups, I'm sure, fully endorse.

Maureen Child also thinks likewise Quote: I agreed with everything Carla said at the Community Council on Monday night

I think that PCC/PAS do a good job, but also feel, IMHO, that some (not all) are disconnected from other groups in the area.

We have shown, as a community, that we are interested in what's going on, it should not be left to one group/person to dictate who/who will not be part of any consultative process, with regards to our community.

I welcome the Waterfront Devlopment Project Group's,
"looking at ways of consulting with local communities in the widest sense possible and not just with groups/individuals that already have a means of expressing their voice e.g. PAS, Community Council etc., hence the approach of setting up their stalls in public areas such as Ocean Terminal and Scotmid







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Postby Brian McCrow » 05 Jun 2005, 13:20

I guess I used a shorthand approach in reporting my discussion. Of course, they are drawing on discussions with many parts of the Community and that is democratically correct. And they'll continue following this process.

I mean't that just for the Community Council, the group who are involved in the development of a Community Plan should have a meeting with the Council Project Managers prior to a Community Council workshop. This is as much to brief the Project Managers on our thinking and hence make the workshop more productive. Once the Community Council has had its deliberations these can be published to the wider community for discussion.

This doesn't seem a bad process.

What's your gripe Gemini? If you feel outwith the process we are looking for volunteers as there are plenty of activities!!!
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Postby Gemini » 05 Jun 2005, 21:14

Qupte McCrow>
What's your gripe Gemini? If you feel outwith the process we are looking for volunteers as there are plenty of activities!!!<<

Probably stems from your Shorthand approach Brian :!:

However, I would be intested learning about the Portobello Working Group's activities.
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