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New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Scoop » 09 Jan 2012, 22:19

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby seanie » 09 Jan 2012, 22:26

There is a legal principle that actions should be brought in good time.

Waiting over two years seems a little tardy, especially when fundraising had gone so well.

Why the delay?
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Scoop » 09 Jan 2012, 22:35

You are speculationg that fundraising has gone so well. Hearsay and fact are two very different things. You may have assumed that fundraising was going well, because that was what you were led to assume. It cannot be misinterpreted as fact, although it may well be true. I have found that it more prudent to not comment until certain of the facts, and even then, I am still laying myself open to being called a gossip.
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby seanie » 09 Jan 2012, 22:41

I'm not speculating that fundraising had gone well. I'm relying on the claim by Alison Connelly that fundraising had gone well.

Are you suggesting Alison Connelly wasn't telling the truth?

What evidence do you have to support that?
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Porty » 09 Jan 2012, 22:46

PPAG fundraising first reared its ugly head at their open meeting at S Marks which i believe was 2006. Then there was the 2007 pop quiz. Scoop and Epy were members of the YPT team and reported the event as well attended and succesful. So why the delay?
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Scoop » 09 Jan 2012, 22:55

I have no idea who Alison Connelly is, therefore it cannot be said that I am suggesting that she was, or was not telling the truth. to ask "what evidence do you have to support that? " is a prime example of you using language that assumes one thing, when another may be true.
What I was suggesting is that there seems to be a lot of "speculation" as to who, how or what is funding PPAG's case. Despite it being their business, and their business only, maybe there is a tactic being used to lead you off the scent. Or maybe it is the truth. Either way, it is really nobody's business but the PPAG's.
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Scoop » 09 Jan 2012, 22:57

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Epykat » 09 Jan 2012, 23:03

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby seanie » 09 Jan 2012, 23:04

Alison Connelly has been a committed member of PPAG from its inception, and has frequently represented the organisation in delegations and statements. What you're telling me is that when Alison Connelly tells the Evening News that fundraising has gone extremely well, it's quite wrong of me to take from that that fundraising has in fact gone well.

So you're suggesting, one way or another, that she wasn't telling the truth.

Do you have some evidence to back that up? Or is it simply speculation on your part?
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Bob Jefferson » 09 Jan 2012, 23:10

And stop editing your posts when I'm trying to quote from them!
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Epykat » 09 Jan 2012, 23:13

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby seanie » 09 Jan 2012, 23:19

Quite.

If Scoop had suggested I had to take the veracity of what you said with extreme caution, of course I'd understand.

I just can't understand why Scoop finds Alison Connelly so untrustworthy.
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Maria » 09 Jan 2012, 23:32

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Epykat » 09 Jan 2012, 23:38

Could be! Whatever, it was a good night :D

Was that the one we were pogoing at?

And in that case - Porty, I don't remember the one you're talking about. Even then, I'm pretty sure we still didn't contribute enough to fund 3 days in Court. What was the one in the Community Centre? That was good as well.
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Maria » 09 Jan 2012, 23:42

Allegedly.... :-$
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Epykat » 09 Jan 2012, 23:44

Aw, I get all nostalgic reading those old posts....in the days when we were all nice to each other and had a bit of community spirit....
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Scoop » 09 Jan 2012, 23:48

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby seanie » 09 Jan 2012, 23:54

Your knowledge of who Alison Connelly is, has no bearing on the fact that you've suggested I'm wrong to place any trust in what she says. That is what you have in effect suggested.

I'm just asking you to clarify why what she's said is not to be trusted.
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Porty » 10 Jan 2012, 00:00

.....ambition makes you look pretty ugly
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Scoop » 10 Jan 2012, 00:11

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby seanie » 10 Jan 2012, 00:18

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Porty » 10 Jan 2012, 00:18

The night out was a fundraiser for PPAG . People like your good self and Tom Nimmo did their bit to delay the New school and to fund the court action. Thats what its got to do with

I dont expect you to agree with me on the court expenses but I can be unhapoy if the council spend your tax proving something they had already paid for.PPAG should be wholly responsibke. They are the only ones doubting.
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby seanie » 10 Jan 2012, 00:22

Oh, and maybe you should google to find out what 'boasting' means. Eh, Scoop? :wink:
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Scoop » 10 Jan 2012, 00:32

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Porty » 10 Jan 2012, 00:36

One final thought of the evening.. were PPAG self funding it would certainly be true to say "its their business". We are all aware they are raising money from the general public which makes it public business.
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Scoop » 10 Jan 2012, 00:47

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby seanie » 10 Jan 2012, 01:01

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Scoop » 10 Jan 2012, 01:19

Again, ho hum.....I do not know Alison Connelly, and I do not know about anything that she has said, or not said. It is you who conjured this up. It is you who has implied that I do not trust the word of someone whom I don't know, and whom I haven't met. It would be impossible, and indeed foolhardy, for me, or for anyone else to make an assumption on her, or indeed any other unknown person. Do not put words into my mouth. Do not try to make it appear that I have implied something, which I clearly have not. It is silly and it is making you seem petty.
However, to avoid any doubt, let me make this clear, just so that you stop worrying about my opinion of Alison Connelly, and so that you can let go of your need to defend her good character to me, should I ever meet Alison Connelly, or hear of anything that she may have to say, I will have no reason not to believe what she is saying in the first instance. Unless of course I know a different truth from hers.
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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby Scoop » 10 Jan 2012, 01:24

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Re: New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

Postby seanie » 10 Jan 2012, 09:05

So why the delay?
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