New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

[Epykat]

[seanie]

[Scoop]

[seanie]

What point of law?

That inalienable Common Good land can't be appropriated?

[Makaveli]

Stupid/Ill informed - only they can decide that. I know what I think.

Anyone who is knowingly part of the quest to delay the new school should be made to explain their actions to the school kids of Portobello.

[Epykat]

[seanie]

PPAG could've brought an action after the December '08 decision.

Why the delay?

[Epykat]

[Porty]

[Epykat]

[Porty]

I'm feeling fine, regardless. The words are mine not yours!

Perhaps we are getting somewhere. I accept that you do not know why PPAG delayed.

Do you accept that they are solely responsible for the delay?

[seanie]

[Betty Windsor]

Would that be by way of a punishment for daring to hold the council to account? You seem to forget that this case is of interest outwith our little area. It will create a very worrying precedent if City of Edinburgh get away with this. There are many people outwith the PPAG who are very keen to make sure this does not happen. This dispute is about the land. You, along with the council have tried to make it about the school. It's now in the hands of the courts and I for one am very happy about that, and look forward to seeing justice done.

[seanie]

It's not about them "daring to hold the council to account", it's about the unnecessary delay and the additional expense that's been involved. PPAG could've challenged the Council's decision in December '08 but waited over 2 and a half years. They even waited for 3-4 months after the planning application was granted, until the project was out to tender, at which point their challenge would inevitably cause delay.

They left their action till the very last minute.

[Epykat]

[Betty Windsor]

[Porty]

[Betty Windsor]

I think it shows how out of touch you really are with the people in the Christians and Magdalene these days if you think people are happy with the loss of their land. If you think it's a good thing that councils can do this without having to go through the courts then I respect your opinion but I strongly disagree with it. I think I'm still allowed to do that in this country without fear of intimidation and ridicule. Not always the case on this forum in my experience. It's in the hands of the courts now and if it suits your purposes to continue to undermine the efforts of PPAG and Diana Cairns in particular, it really says a lot more about you than it does about them. I now have to trust in the process of the law.

[Porty]

[Porty]

BTW- I've never claimed to be in touch with what the people of Magdalene and the Christians think- that was you.

[seashell]

[Porty]

[seashell]

So wrong it is unbelievable.
The only correct piece of information in that preposterous post was that Betty got my sex correct.

For the avoidance of doubt: I do not like people making bald, and utterly incorrect statements about me under the guise of purveying *factual* information when they are proceeeding from a point of total ignorance. I hope that Betty has the courtesy to apologise for attempting to 'call me out', even if the results have rather backfired.

[Bob Jefferson]

Oh dear. Another case of mistaken identity. Perhaps I'm Seashell? What do you reckon Betty?

[rmolehusband]

[seashell]

I think we've all been watching a certain film with Kirk Douglas over the holidays!!
Never mind guys, I'm feeling the love here. Well, from some of you.

[Puerto bella]

Does that qualify as 'sticky' wangi? Always wondered what that was until now.

[Scoop]

[Makaveli]

But surely if you believe that you are right in the eyes of the law then fear of losing and thus having high legal fees would not be a consideration?

Thus meaning no need for a delay correct?

[Scoop]

It is a little naive to believe that lawyers only take on cases that they think they can win - if only! Payments made to account, and sometimes in advance will have been requested. That is pretty normal practice regardless of the expected outcome. And no, that does no mean I am saying that I think PPAG's legal representation, or the council's for that matter, are in any way incompetent, or should be subject to scrutiny, just before I get accused of saying it.

[seanie]

[Scoop]

Quite an expensive point to make, wouldn't you think? Quite an expensive delaying tactic, which according to many on here, is futile. They have now put their money where their mouths are, albeit, it is not in keeping with your idea of timescale. It's not in anyone's interests to allow a case to take up the court's time.

[seashell]

[Scoop]

I wouldn't touch a lawyer with a barge pole. They are, in my opinion, THE most self regulating group of "professionals". Ok, maybe not, second to bankers. In my opinion. As for the inside knowledge bit, yes, I have that, but to presume that it can only have been through my instructing "counsel" is blinkered.

[seashell]

So you haven't instructed counsel then?
You must have had some other experience of how they tender their fees then.