New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

[Porty]

I'm so glad you joined in Paxe. Dogshitwise is a really funny word! Thanks

[seanie]

[Porty]

[Makaveli]

[Bob Jefferson]

Let me assure you all, that I am a careful and courteous driver at all times. And if the reduced speed limits around the new school add a few minutes to my journey, then I shan't mind in the slightest.

[Paxetamor]

My brother was knocked down on Milton Road many years ago(he's not the one in the poster),that was back when we called it the Main Road. It seems that has now changed to being a minor road, maybe it was because I was wee that it seemed big. Although, the Golfie is now called Portobello Park and, LMFAO, the Burn is now called Magdalene Glen(divot). You couldn't make it up. Actually you can, I made up the divot bit.

I'm sure Bob is a very careful and courteous driver, there has to be one of them out there. The traffic going along Milton Road at peak times barely reaches over 5mph depending whether you're going in to or out of town, I can't see too many children, even the really thick ones, getting knocked over by one of them.

[seanie]

The only people who have ever described it as 'a minor road' are the Portobello Park Action Group.

[Porty]

[tufty]

I've been following this discussion and eventually had to comment. The new school will not change the side of the road it is on, if you live to the south now or after the new school opens, you have to cross Milton Road. I drive past every morning and all the children coming out of Brunstane already cross the A1, as do all the children at Magdalene, Parsonsgreen and parts of Duddingston.
So why is this part of the arguement against a new school?

[Bob Jefferson]

[Bob Jefferson]

[Epykat]

[Paxetamor]

Cheers Tufty, I was a member of the 'club' too. I didn't even realise I was forming an argument, either in part or whole. I had a look at the Council Report and now see where the minor comes in i.e. nothing to do with the size of the road. Didn't mean to rattle your cage so much that you felt you HAD to say something.

My brother's accident didn't even make the papers, he got a lift in an ambulance and some stitches though, so it wasn't all bad. It was probably classed as an M-word bump.

[seanie]

Tufty didn't refer to it as your argument, simply that it was part of the argument presented against the school. As evidenced by the flyer.

[Porty]

The dangers of increased road crossings was used as an argument by pfans bods as response to the PPAG desire to put the school on one of three parks on the magdalene side. The PPAG argue that the new school's proximity to the road is dangerous. their solution?- quadruple the number of road crossings.

[Pal of Porty]

Rather ironically, the feigned concern about traffic from PPAG led to some of their ideas being incorporated into the final submission to Planning and made the case for the school even stronger.

[linksgreen]

Hi there. This is my first post so be gentle!

As an ex-pat Porty-ite now living in Leith I'd like to offer some observations from 'afar'.

The 'golfy' was always well used when I was a kid in the 70's/80's by dog walkers and kids playing football. Saturdays and Sundays saw the 3 football pitches fully used. In the 90's it was my amateur team's home pitch. I don't believe Edinburgh can afford to lose any more green space. As someone who now enjoys Leith Links, I worry it would be the thin end of the wedge if the new Porty High School is built there.

Surely a better option would be some sort of deal with either the Powerleague and the Indoor Bowling Centre or with the occupants of the Baileyfield Industrial Estate?

With the land freed up by the demolition of the old Porty High could a shared campus of Duddingston and St John's not be agreed? This would free up Duddingston School and the football pitch (if it's still there!) attached for any land purchase needed for a new build Porty High.

Given the green initiatives being taken in Porty, it strikes me as sad that principles are being sacrificed so easily.

[seanie]

There are a number of problems with your suggestion, but a principal one is the lack of any economic reality. Have you any idea how much it would cost to buy the industrial estate AND pay the relocation costs of replacement facilities. It'd be economic insanity at the best of times, let alone now when there's goi g to be NO new capital projects for at least the next 4 years.

[Betty Windsor]

[Betty Windsor]

[seanie]

[seanie]

[Betty Windsor]

[seanie]

Bar them?

You think they were barred?

[Bob Jefferson]

[Porty]

If Pod or Pedal made comment it will be available on the planning portal for all to view. Not that it matters at this stage of the game.

[rmolehusband]

[Bob Jefferson]

Now that was funny.

[Betty Windsor]

[seanie]

You don't make much distinction between reality and fiction either, do you?

[Betty Windsor]

[rmolehusband]

[rmolehusband]

[Porty]

PEDAL'S neutrality is very well explained in Jane's preamble. Not only is it credible its also commendable. The group acted democratically and expressed the diverse views of their board.

Betty are you incredulous due to PPAG failure to influence PEDAL in the way they succeeded with The Reporter and PAS?

[Betty Windsor]

"What is Transition?

The Transition model is a very simple framework that can be used pretty much anywhere to bring a community together to make it a happier, healthier and more sustainable place to live."

I got the above from Transition Scotand's website. Given the huge amount of data that is available on the health benefits of having green space how can PEDAL possibly be nuetral on this matter.
Another case of selling out principles?