New Portobello High School - PPAG Judicial Review

[Mark Cameron]

Have any of the traders said who is applying the pressure. Or are they afraid to speak out. We need to somehow show them the community would be right behind them if they support this appeal being dropped.

[seashell]

[Bob Jefferson]

[Bob Jefferson]

[Bob Jefferson]

[Bob Jefferson]

What gets Ros off the hook of course, is the phrase "people are saying that". In other words, she would argue that she isn't making a direct allegation, she is simply reporting what other people are saying in the same way that I might say to someone: "People are saying that you murdered your wife."

On the other hand, you might take the view that she is deliberately spreading a damaging rumour that has no basis whatsoever in reality.

So why has she done this? In a fit of pique apparently because Nick Stroud, the joint secretary of the CC had the temerity to circulate the link to our online petition.

That's what people are saying anyway.

[wangi]

Here's a map of the Portobello High School catchment area along with the data. Keep it in mind when you read PPAG's claim of "25% of Portobello's parkland".



Click for larger size. New Portobello High is going on an area within PF2; along with new all-weather playing fields.

Map from .

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[Bob Jefferson]

On the subject of the online petition, I don't think a single member of the Community Council has signed it apart from the aforementioned Sean, Maria, Tom, Nick and Lawrence. Five out of around 30. And these are the people who are supposed to represent the community. This is a crisis. This is no time for sitting on the fence or abstaining. These people have a responsibility. You are either for us or against us. And if you don't have the courage to make a decision, get out and make room for someone who can and will.

[Porty]

perhaps the EM should begin with an informal show of hands by pcc members to indicate who thinks PPAG should drop their appeal. We can then move onto challenging those who put pressure on traders.

[Bob Jefferson]

[wangi]

[wangi]

[seanie]

[seashell]

Let's not forget that Professor Robert Rennie (who is generally regarded as a conveyancing expert, not an expert on common good lands) was paid by PPAG for his opinion. Which Lady Dorrian rejected.

[seanie]

[Chas]

[Makaveli]

http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-eveni ... -1-2225612

[wangi]

The appeal is to be heard on the 23 and 24 May, the earliest available dates. Grounds of appeal have to be lodged within 7 days with answers within a further 7 days. The appeal will cover both the delay issue and the merits of the case.

[tufty]

Does this mean they have revealed their grounds for appeal already and it merits a hearing, or will they reveal their grounds on the 23rd May? sorry for not understanding this issue.

[Snow White]

I see that SPP Facebook page are claiming that they have pushed for this 'early' appeal hearing. Any truth in this or just more misinformation?

[wangi]

Snow White - our source at the hearing today says "It is only fair to record that counsel for PPAG did not oppose the request for an urgent hearing and was entirely helpful in finding a date for it".

Tufty - I think that's 7 days from today.

[Porty]

Council were solely responsible for for calling for early appeal hearing. Super quick action as its been less than Two weeks since notice of appeal. PPAG are dumb for publishing it was down to them. The power knows its untrue.

[Pal of Porty]

[Pal of Porty]

Just read the report on the BBC web site and despite the track record of PPAG, I am incredulous that they are issuing the following claim on national media and not just on their propagandist Facebook page:

"PPAG has claimed it requested the early appeal to show it was not "stalling"

They are obviously upset at being viewed by the majority of the community as the group that are maliciously delaying the school project and are now trying to appear like they care. Totally devoid of anything substantive in their entire campaign they again have to resort to misrepresentations.

Total liars until the bitter end.

[Bob Jefferson]

And on a more positive note, Ben McLeish has just become the sixth member of Portobello Community Council to sign the petition. Thanks Ben!

[Mark Cameron]

So whats the current scores on the doors in terms of PCC that have and haven't signed? Who has and who's not?

[Bob Jefferson]

Those who have signed are as follows:

Sean Watters
Maria Devoy
Tom Ballantine
Nick Stroud
Lawrence Marshall
Ben McLeish

And although the link to the petition has been circulated to all CC members, none of the others have signed to date. One member has told me privately that he supports the school on the park but won't sign the petition. The others - who knows?

[Betty Windsor]

[Betty Windsor]

[Betty Windsor]

[Betty Windsor]

[Betty Windsor]

I'm at a loss as to understand why a special meeting of the community council should be called. What's it got to do with them? Or is this just another tactic to try and discredit PPAG?
You are clearly people who have no real concept of community outside your own clique. If it were not so you would have a bit more regard for people who disagreed with you.
Can you not see the hypocrisy of this? You are seeking to censure a group for excersising their democratic right. In any other scenario most of the same people that are attacking PPAG, would be on the side of protecting open green space and defending democratic rights.

You're behaving like a bunch of fascists.

[Betty Windsor]

[seanie]

Honesty, integrity, even simple decency...

....I may something to say about that soon.

[Makaveli]

Fascists indeed!!!

Do you resort to name calling in real life when you lose a debate Betty?

And you know full well it is not about defending green space as PPAG have offered up numerous other green spaces for the school to be built on so please do not repeat that claim as it is quite frankly embarrassing!!!