dogs and environmental wardens (merged)

by **Puerto bella** » 08 Aug 2007, 21:05

Had a lovely afternoon promenading with mini Pb, friend and her tot. Had a bit of a play on the beach quite happily, no dogs in sight and then as if by magic a huge untethered bull mastif appears, no humans with it, roaming along the Dalriada end. It spoilt our fun no end and put you on edge.

A while later a v.tatooed 'fightin talk type of skinny man and an overly tanned lady with large gypsy earrings appeared and led it off.

Why oh why is it every time we are on the beach there is a dog incident? These were by no means the sort of folk you could say 'keep your dog under control' to either.

by **Sandra** » 08 Aug 2007, 21:38

by **Puerto bella** » 08 Aug 2007, 21:46

by **Stray NO.666** » 12 Aug 2007, 14:56

by **Black Mamba** » 11 Sep 2007, 18:12

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by **portocat** » 18 May 2009, 13:35

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Hello

Has anyone else noticed a general increase in dog fouling in the area? While I appreciate that lots of owners are responsible and pick up after their pets it is a shame that some owners don't pick up and leave the mess behind for people to potentially step in. Having two small children I am especially concerned about this.

I have read that in some countries DNA testing along with a dog DNA register is being used to identify the owners responsible, in an attempt to discourage this antisocial behaviour. I think this is something that government/local councils should adopt in this country.

If anyone else feels strongly about this, please sign the following petition.

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/StopDogFouling

thanks for reading!

by **SoupDragon** » 18 May 2009, 13:54

Yes. I've noticed a fair bit more around Straiton Place and Bath St.
Most owners a very responsible and pick up after their dogs but as I've mained before therea re a few dogs allowed to run loose or the owners don't keep an eye on where the dog has gone or what it's doing :evil:

by **Eck** » 19 May 2009, 12:34

by **SoupDragon** » 19 May 2009, 13:29

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by **portocat** » 19 May 2009, 15:57

by **seashell** » 19 May 2009, 16:17

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by **portocat** » 19 May 2009, 18:20

by **seashell** » 19 May 2009, 18:34

by **portocat** » 19 May 2009, 20:02

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by **portocat** » 19 May 2009, 20:51

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by **seashell** » 19 May 2009, 21:41

by **Epykat** » 20 May 2009, 11:16

by **Eck** » 20 May 2009, 11:25

by **Porty** » 20 May 2009, 11:46

by **Eck** » 20 May 2009, 11:56

by **portocat** » 20 May 2009, 12:01

by **Epykat** » 20 May 2009, 17:16

But you're petition doesn't just want to raise awareness and create discussion - it is demanding a DNA register for all dogs owned in the country. All this will do is put people off giving homes to animals who have just as much right to be on this planet as you do but who instead will end up being kept in cages or put to sleep because they can't find owners.

A MINORITY of dog owners don't clean up after their dogs - just like A MINORITY of parents don't control their children. We don't demand that every child born is put on a DNA register just in case they commit a minor midemeanour at some point in the future.

Pets give a lot of pleasure to a lot of people - why should they be penalised for that? So, not everybody likes dogs. So, not everybody likes children. Each to their own. Live and let live. A bit of dog poo isn't the end of the world.

by **Sandra** » 20 May 2009, 19:51

Brillant, well said Epykat =D>

by **StarVanMan** » 20 May 2009, 23:11

It doesnt really matter whether you think dogs are equals with young children, or not.

The problem is at a practical level. Sufficient numbers of dog owners do behave in ways (not picking up the poo, letting pets bound up to small children) that frequently make using beach with young children difficult.

Are there threads on talk porty about the problems caused by toddlers eg cluttering up the prom? They might be a little bit annoying to some people but they just dont limit other people's (or even dogs') freedoms and enjoyment to the same extent as owners who don't control their dogs do. (a possible lost apostrophe there).

I'd like to see sections of the beach dog free, others dog friendly. Perhaps summer only.

by **Eck** » 21 May 2009, 10:29

Young children are one thing, however, I would suggest that there are far more children (under 16) who are much more danger to anyone than a dog. And whilst I do bear in mind the unfortunate child in Dalkeith, I also have to balance that out with the amount of crime that is committed by under 16's in the Edinburgh area. Only the other week was it announced that a handful of children were responsible for a massive amount of crimes including carrying weapons.

I would say that these youths are a bigger threat to your safety on the beach, or anywhere for that matter, than a little bit of dog poo.

People need to put things in perspective. Why aren't you starting a petition to make parent more accountable for their children, you know, the ones that will actually stab, rob, punch you.

I've seen far more better behaved dogs than I have children, that's for sure. The same could also be said for some adults!

by **Grunk** » 21 May 2009, 11:46

I think you'll find that it's usually (not always) the errant children that grow up to own poorly controlled dogs as well as becoming the people who don't pick up poo or have any regard towards society. Society which often supports them.
They in turn bring up their children to have poor social ethics.

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