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Talk Porty ~ Portobello • View topic - We are sailing, well almost...

We are sailing, well almost...

Discussion and debate on the issues affecting Portobello

Postby Carol » 24 Oct 2006, 17:16

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In response Soupdragon's posting

Postby Jonathan Bendit » 24 Oct 2006, 18:43

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Postby SoupDragon » 27 Oct 2006, 17:09

Thank you for posting your intentions on POL, there's been all sorts of rumours floating around (sorry, couldn't resist the pun). I saw the neighbour notifications and it wasn't very clear as to what was intended as the dotted lines merged with the solid ones, then came the delay in being able to see plans. Some folks thought this was an attempt to delay public awareness by a slick operator associated with Gregors who would then sneak in and build more "Miami flats". Other rumours have been a road thru' the site, a clubhouse, walls built etc etc. Hence the unease.

I know kayaks go at a gentle pace, wasn't sure about the speed of dinghys but if you say there's no danger to bathers then that seems ok. You have to remember that this is the first year we've been free of selfish jet skiers buzzing the tideline. (Yes there were a few "golden balls "there last year but some jet skiers ignored them )

The landscaped area is used by sunbathers and picnickers in the summer. Unfortunatly it's true that dog owners allow their animals to foul there, as happens in every green space and park in Porty. Until about mid week Gregors (at least I think it was them )had a grotty bit fence up against the wall which didn't improve the look of the place.

I look forward to seeing your plans for the area. being honest you might have a couple of my offspring amongst your customers
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Postby Number12lilac » 16 Nov 2006, 16:57

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Re: Jetskis??

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Postby Jonathan Bendit » 29 Dec 2006, 20:39

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Postby Bob Jefferson » 16 Jan 2007, 19:18

Here is the planning support document. Neighbourhood notification went out last night.

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Postby Porty » 17 Jan 2007, 12:19

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Postby rapunzell » 17 Jan 2007, 18:44

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Postby Jonathan Bendit » 17 Jan 2007, 19:07

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Postby aileenandfearghal » 18 Jan 2007, 21:35

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Postby Bob Jefferson » 13 Feb 2007, 21:51

The application is 07/00186/FUL

You can view it online here:

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Postby rapunzell » 13 Feb 2007, 21:59

I have to admit I was pricing canoes earlier today :D
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Postby Bob Jefferson » 13 Feb 2007, 22:06

I would like to see a copy of this letter you received. Can you get it scanned and put online? I'm willing to help out if required.
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Postby rapunzell » 13 Feb 2007, 22:20

Not sure I can scan it, but I might be able to photograph it and email it to you :D Give me a moment..
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Postby Bob Jefferson » 14 Feb 2007, 07:41

Thanks. Here it is:



Sounds familiar. A well-loved green space that is going to be lost. I'm surprised someone hasn't already started a petition. :roll:

Seriously, I have never seen anyone picnic here. Let's face it - it's a dog toilet.
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Postby rapunzell » 14 Feb 2007, 09:40

I was pondering this. I am torn between desperately wanting a sailing club here and not wanting to lose any more of Porty's controversial green space.

It's a real pity the amusement arcade waste ground redevelopment didn't have to maintain low height community useage, then there could be a boat yard and potteries there, in grounds already suited to both and so (I think) unobjectionable to those nearby. The old harbour area is even the sort of tidal moorage that Cramond boat club use.. No, stop me now!

Of course, the flip side of using appropriate design, community needs and good precedence to lead prom regeneration might include the rebuilding of Malborough Mansions on that green space, a substantially higher and wider build than a boatyard fence.. Oops.
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Postby aileenandfearghal » 14 Feb 2007, 12:30

We love the idea of there being a sailing club in porty from a selfish point of view. The beach is right there at the end of Bath Street and it would be amazing to have the facility to get out there and sail.

Being outdoory people and teachers we can also see the benefit to the community as a whole. The more people we can get outside and get involved the better for a whole multitude of reasons.

Being new to the area, we're a bit unaware of the history and politics surrounding these issues - but it's perfectly understandable that people will have objections. If you're not interested in sailing, you're unlikely to see any benefits to having this on your doorstep - only problems. Unfortunatley, such is the nature of life, this is likely to be the case no matter where the club is sited. It is a bit surprising however that the above document tries to sell that piece of grass as some sort of invaluable amenity to the community. Not many would believe that and I think this detracts from their argument.

As far as we know, Jonathan has decided that a sailing club would be a good idea and is doing his best to make this happen. There probably are alternative locations for it, but he has gone ahead with what he sees as the best one and is planning to do it in the most sustainable and considerate way possible.

So, he has put forward his idea and others are putting forward their objections. It is up to the council to decide what is the best thing to do for the community as a whole. This is the way it goes when we're all living in a fairly small space.

Sorry, I seem to be rambling. Just some thoughts on the matter.

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Postby rapunzell » 14 Feb 2007, 12:59

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Postby Epykat » 14 Feb 2007, 14:21

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Postby aileenandfearghal » 27 Mar 2007, 11:36

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Sailing Club

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Re: Sailing Club

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Postby Maria » 05 Nov 2007, 13:16

From today's EN :

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Postby wangi » 05 Nov 2007, 13:44

Poor bit of journalism - reads like the plan has been approved and it's a sure thing. It's still to be discussed on Wednesday.
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