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Talk Porty ~ Portobello • View topic - We are sailing, well almost...

We are sailing, well almost...

Discussion and debate on the issues affecting Portobello

Postby Bob Jefferson » 05 Nov 2007, 13:58

I expect that permission will be granted, but, as Jonathan states, this is just the first stage. For the club to be viable they need access and I think that may be a more difficult obstacle to overcome.
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Planning permission

Postby Jonathan Bendit » 07 Nov 2007, 16:29

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Postby seanie » 08 Nov 2007, 17:37

I thought the proposal was for kayaks and dinghies that were to be wheeled by hand down to the beach.
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Vehicle access

Postby Jonathan Bendit » 08 Nov 2007, 18:09

Situation update. Midway through the planning application, I was advised that the Roads department were unhappy about the likely increase of parking pressure in Straiton Place and surrounding area and concerned that dinghy sailors would arrive towing a boat and find nowhere safe (off road) to unhitch it. Unless I was able to resolve this, I was advised that planning permission would be refused.

My architect devised a proposal that involves widening the alley down the side of the Straiton Place flats, flaring the top corner so that a car towing a dinghy could turn in, right off Straiton Place, and park up in the compound to unhitch and park a boat. This, we were advised could be an acceptable solution, subject to a separate planning application with the additional showing of about 8 parking spaces on the compound. The widened alley would be either bollarded or gated at the top with vehicles entering probably by invitation only. The pedestrian part would of course remain, providing access to the prom.

This is not a perfect solution - in terms of cost and cars on the compound -arguably being an eyesore and taking up useful boat space. Nevertheless on that basis we were able to continue with the application.

Clearly as managers of the site it would be the club's decision as to the extent to which cars are allowed to park there.....

Because of the status of the application - having to go to the Scottish Executive, we have not yet received formal notification of the decision nor any conditions that will be applied to our use of the site.

Whilst I know that no one likes the thought of cars on that patch of land, there is a valid point in having a safe place to unhitch a boat.

Until I know more I can't add much but as soon as I can, I will.
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Postby Puerto bella » 08 Nov 2007, 22:22

Thanks for the explanation Jonathan. You will have your work cut out trying to keep the access free for the club given the lack of regard to parking/ access rules around this part of the street. Sometimes I can't even get in my front door with people parked on the double yellows blocking it. The same selfish gits would probably think nothing of parking in your access if it all goes ahead. Presumably you would have a lockable bollard or similar for club members?

The report the Council did to the Planning Committee on your app. will detail any conditions/ legal agreement requirements etc. The SGovt will odds on advise that the Council can deal with it and issue decision. Have seen much bigger, more controversial schemes than this not called in.
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Planning pemission granted

Postby Jonathan Bendit » 12 Dec 2007, 18:30

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Postby Sandra » 12 Dec 2007, 20:19

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Postby Maria » 18 May 2008, 22:32

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Postby SoupDragon » 20 May 2008, 17:02

The above minutes are what we'd expected from the planning application but there's a persisitant rumour that there is to be a car park with acess going down the lane and onto part of the playpark.

Thats the bit that worries me, you only have to look at the railings to see the traffic problems we've had round here
( the repair were supposed to be in the hands of lawyers/insurance not sure whats happening on that score, been a bit occupied elsewhere lately )

As I say its all rumour.

I noticed the club house ( in the Miami flats ) has a sign saying they are opening at the end of June.
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Access to the dinghy park

Postby Jonathan Bendit » 20 May 2008, 22:38

The planning authority has granted planning permission. In the conditions, there was no mention of the need for a car park or the need for vehicular access to the yard down the alleyway.
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Fund raising

Postby Jonathan Bendit » 03 Sep 2008, 17:28

A quick update about Portobello Sailing & Kayaking Club. I am delighted to report that we have been awarded our first grant of £5,000 from the Scottish Community Foundation. However, we need a whole lot more so if anyone wants to suggest any avenues we might persue, suggest away!
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Postby Maria » 10 Oct 2008, 13:30

Just heard that the Sailing Club's Beach Cafe (on the Prom at the bottom of Bath Street) is now open. 7 days a week. 9.00 am - 5.45 pm.
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Postby Grunk » 13 Oct 2008, 11:39

what kind of food do they do?

as big as a burger or as small as soup?
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