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Talk Porty ~ Portobello • View topic - Scottish Power Site Re-development 3 - supermarket + housing

Scottish Power Site Re-development 3 - supermarket + housing

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Postby Puerto bella » 19 Sep 2010, 09:23

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Postby seanie » 19 Sep 2010, 10:07

back-peddling?

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Postby seanie » 20 Sep 2010, 21:59



Admin: For clarity this is the planning reference number for the previous proposal for housing which was refused. The current proposal for housing, commercial and cultural development is a pre-planning consultation.
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Postby seanie » 21 Sep 2010, 22:07

In the absence of another readily available mechanism , I decided to conduct a straw poll of local residents using addresses in various contact lists.

The results can be found.

I acknowledge all kinds of limitations, and it's only a small sample, but it was a genuine attempt to garner some feedback on where opinion might lie.
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Postby seanie » 21 Sep 2010, 22:10

Consider it an attempt at "canvasing resident's views".
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Postby Bob Jefferson » 21 Sep 2010, 23:06

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Postby seanie » 21 Sep 2010, 23:17

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B L Response to PCC Comments on Proposal

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Postby Bob Jefferson » 22 Sep 2010, 02:42

Well, given that it's one of the very few pieces of evidence we have as to what people actually want, I would say it is of considerable value. I also acknowledge Marya's online poll as further evidence. However, rather than seek the views of the community, it would seem that some members have already made their minds up and are actively campaigning against the proposals. A leaflet that is currently being circulated is headed 'NEW SUPERSTORE THREAT TO PORTOBELLO HIGH STREET'. The author, no doubt, wishes to remain anonymous.
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Postby Makaveli » 22 Sep 2010, 03:27

If what Bob says above is correct I find that a bit disturbing. I also presume by 'members' Bob you mean PCC members?

I still can't see why the PCC are so dead set against this development? It would be nice to hear from them why they have chosen this position.
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Postby Bob Jefferson » 22 Sep 2010, 04:22

Several members of Portobello Community Council are what I would term hard-core PCATS supporters. You could write to them to ask why they have chosen this position. Do copy us in to any response you get.
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Re: B L Response to PCC Comments on Proposal

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Postby wangi » 22 Sep 2010, 12:41

They work for me Grunk; but have also mirrored them on Talk Porty:

The PCC's initial response: /
Seanie's letter in response: /
Seanie's straw poll: /
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B L Response to PCC Comments on Proposal

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Postby wangi » 24 Sep 2010, 20:53

Here's a overview of the proposed scheme - click to view high-res PDF:

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Re: Scottish Power Site Re-development 3 - supermarket + hou

Postby Fiona » 26 Sep 2010, 16:18

Hi,
I am Fiona, manager of Verden Studios. What is the meeting tomorrow? I have been unable to find information other than it being mentioned on numerous posts. If it is an open meeting, either Jamie or myself would be interested in attending. If so, could you please let me know the time and location.
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Re: Scottish Power Site Re-development 3 - supermarket + hou

Postby Maria » 26 Sep 2010, 17:24

Hi Fiona. Tomorrow's meeting is the regular monthly meeting of the Portobello Community Council. It starts at 7.30 and is held in the Baptist Church Hall, which is behind the Portobello Bar on the High Street. You enter via a passageway beside the Portobello Bar and the Royal Bank of Scotland. It is a public meeting, open to all and you'd be most welcome.
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Re: Scottish Power Site Re-development 3 - supermarket + hou

Postby Fiona » 27 Sep 2010, 15:15

Thanks,
I'll be there, I won't be able to stay much after 8.30 unfortunately as I have commitments at 9pm, I hope that's ok.
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Postby Maria » 27 Sep 2010, 15:21

No problem, Fiona. People frequently leave early or arrive late.
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Waitrose interest - Question for Phil Myerscough

Postby Mark Cameron » 27 Sep 2010, 21:09

There appear to be rumours doing the rounds that the Waitrose interest is not a genuine interest at all. Instead it's being suggested Waitrose name is being used as a front to get favourable backing to the idea of a supermarket on the BL site.

Phil What can you do to quell these rumours? Are you able to confirm 100% that Waitrose are indeed interested and are the only business being considered for this development site?
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Postby philip myerscough » 27 Sep 2010, 23:26

I just want to apologise for the heated nature of my responses to some of the questions at the Community Council meeting this evening. But I find it very frustrating when I try to consult with the community through PCC only to find my way to the community blocked by people who do not want to consult. Then all I hear is the same old opinions from the same old individuals who think they know best. To quote your chair from a discussion I had with him at the open day at the Town Hall - "Just because it's what the people of Portobello want doesn't mean it's good for Portobello"
I'm beginning to think there is no way forward here unless someone can tell me otherwise.
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Re: Waitrose interest - Question for Phil Myerscough

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