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New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Bob Jefferson » 26 Oct 2010, 18:51

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Bob Jefferson » 26 Oct 2010, 19:22

Show your support for the new school. Print the poster, stick it in your window.

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Makaveli » 26 Oct 2010, 20:32

Hopefully most folk will have gone directly to council's website and by-passed the farce that is the PCC's attempt at consultation.

For starters how do you even know that they will pass your opinion on to Edinburgh council?
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Bob Jefferson » 27 Oct 2010, 06:13

PPAGWatch notes that the PPAG website has now been updated:

http://news.portygreenkeepers.org.uk/#home
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Porty » 27 Oct 2010, 10:03

.....ambition makes you look pretty ugly
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby seanie » 28 Oct 2010, 20:42

I note that Cllr Hawkins lists his membership of PPAG in the Councillors' Register of Interests.

Do you think any of his fellow Councillors have asked him why he associates himself with an organisation that so routinely misrepresents and denigrates the Council of which he is a part?
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Porty » 29 Oct 2010, 12:00

No, I doubt any of his fellow Councillors has asked. No doubt many will have noted the allegiance and modified their views accordingly. His "performance" at Development Sub Committee meetings wil also be on their radar. His fellow Councillors may not be so aware of his tendency to misrepresent Portobello Community Council.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Porty » 29 Oct 2010, 13:37

Councillor Hawkins lists PPAG as one of his interests. We all are all aware of the lies, half-truths and scaremongering purveyed by them over the last 5 Years. They continue to lie to their friends and neighbours, see above. And still the Councillor openly supports the group. How can he reconcile his position with this plea for accurracy from the EN back in MAy 2008.



"A serious debate needs accuracy
STEPHEN McINTYRE in his letter of May 12, claiming to speak for the wider community, is wrong in the figures that he quotes.

The council's option to locate Portobello High School on the 5.7 hectares of Portobello Park was arrived at after an educational consultation and takes up the whole of Portobello Park. That is 100 per cent – not the ten per cent as quoted.

Similarly, the costs quoted are wide of the mark of the figures given in the 2006 appraisal even allowing for inflation. The reprovisioning of Portobello High School, which includes the loss of accessible green space, is a contentious issue within Portobello and one that is dividing the community. In this serious debate it serves no-one to make such inaccurate claims.

Stephen Hawkins, Lib Dem councillor for Portobello/Craigmillar"

Sums him up.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Bob Jefferson » 29 Oct 2010, 16:35

I'm quite sure that local voters will remember Stephen's support for PPAG at the next election.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Makaveli » 29 Oct 2010, 20:06

I know I will that's for sure. Got a leaflet through the door the other day from this shower and read about a paragraph and almost fell about laughing.

I just hope that right minded people in the local area will see through the lies and do the right thing.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby seanie » 29 Oct 2010, 20:15

You don't have a scanner do you?

I never seem to get the leaflets.

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Makaveli » 29 Oct 2010, 20:53

See when I wrote that I thought that someone would want to see it - unfortunately I binned it and the bin men have been since then :oops:

There must be others that got it too so hopefully some else would have a copy.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Makaveli » 02 Nov 2010, 22:18

Got a copy of the leaflet from friends up the road. Got it in pdf format how can I upload it here?
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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When you post a message there is an option to upload an attachment (see under the preview and submit buttons; upload attachment tab)
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Makaveli » 02 Nov 2010, 22:57

Cheers Wangi.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Porty » 03 Nov 2010, 11:06

In terms of outrageous lies/claims the leaflet is not nearly as bad as some of their previous leaflets. in terms of providing material objections to the planning application itself, it is woeful. I reckon out of the 9 pointers they provide for objection, just one is of any relevance.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Porty » 04 Nov 2010, 13:33

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby seanie » 04 Nov 2010, 14:08

The reasoned voice of conciliation;

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby seanie » 08 Nov 2010, 14:38

Since the deadline for comments has been extended, it's been decided to try something extra. An regarding the application.

Click on the in the letter if you'd like to have your name added.

And no grief about the font please. Comic sans may not be pretty but it's easy to read.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby seanie » 13 Nov 2010, 14:19

The letter's been updated with the signatories to date. We're up to 115 I think.

And if you follow the link and give your details don't worry if your name doesn't appear straightaway. I'm not very technologically sophisticated so there's no automatic updating; I have to rely on periodic copy and pasting.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby wangi » 13 Nov 2010, 18:22

I notice a PPAG leaflet has been added to the Planning Portal:

http://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov.uk/ ... =540566839
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby seanie » 13 Nov 2010, 18:58

Well when the planning committee come to decide on the application, some background context on the misinformation and distortions spread about the issue may be of some use.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Porty » 15 Nov 2010, 13:55

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby Pal of Porty » 16 Nov 2010, 12:33

Justice delayed is justice denied.
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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

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Re: New Portobello High School - planning application

Postby seanie » 25 Nov 2010, 15:46

The Planning Portal now has the Community Council's
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