Portobello Community Council

[Porty]

[Porty]

[Puerto bella]

It could be argued that Scottish Power dont even require consent as a statutory undertaker...
Personally I dont think the CC should involve themselves in minor applications.
Choose your battles and all that.

[lg1726]

Does anyone know what the estimated annual running cost of the golf course are, ball park (boom, boom) is fine?

[wangi]

[wangi]

[Porty]

[Pal of Porty]

Several days after the first ever special meeting in the history of the PCC and it is not even mentioned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Porty]

[Makaveli]

The way that the PCC (certain members anyway) pick and chose what planning applications they comment on and what the comment is seem down to one thing and one thing only - personal choice!!!

I don't know how they sleep at night messing around with people like that.

[seashell]

that's a bit like asking 'was there genuine community interest shown in the emergency meeting of the PCC last week', isn't it?
In it's present guise and certainly as chaired, the PCC's function appears to be to advance the minority views of certain individuals and give undue prominence to minority groups, at the expense of the clearly expressed views of the majority of the community.

[seashell]

[Porty]

[Mark Cameron]

If the PCC receive a request for details of the number of contacts since the special meeting either making a complaint or expressing concern, asking for the chair to step down or asking for other PCC members to step aside do you think as a body representing the community they'd have to disclose this information?

Guess we'll find out soon.

[lg1726]

Freedom of information would cover such a request. if they did not disclose, they would have to provide evidence to support that decision and it could be challenged. It's my guess they would co-operate with an FOI request, more hassle for them not to!

[Porty]

surely a simple request from a cc would extract copies of all correspondence?

[BeachBum]

[Porty]

I suspect most correspondents will have copied the council in.

When are the minutes due, could make for some interesting reading. What will the council make of a document that contains a vote where 98% wish a request to drop the appeal and the CC intimate they have to be neutral. PCC should hire Ronald McDonald to go along and read the minutes out loud to the full council. would lend a bit gravitas.

[Pal of Porty]

This has all been about the school and nothing should detract from getting the new Porty High built on the Park. One of the side issues however has been to throw some light on how the PCC operates and in my view there really is no great mystery.

It is controlled by a handful of people that have formed an 'Inner Sanctum' that manipulates the way that all decisions are made and reported. In their own minds, they may well believe that they have the interests of Portobello at heart but world history is littered with many dictatorial regimes that thought their way was the correct way too and we know how many of those ended up!

Split the inner sanctum and voices more representative of Portobello can be heard again. Simples

[lg1726]

Whilst pcc might not be covered, CEC are and it could be possible to find out how many contacts/complaints they have had about the PCC since the emergency meeting. I cc'd them into my letter and i know a lot of others did and that could provide an indication of the level of discontent.

[Mark Cameron]

Sean which ones are happy to have their email addresses in the public domain? We can work out who the others are by our sleuth like abilities. Surely it's in the interest of public consultation to be as open and attainable as possible.

[seanie]

Not sure to be honest. I seem to recall a suggestion that those happy to have contact details publicised could maybe have that info added to the PCC web-site, but nothing ever came of it.

When the PCC e-mail distribution list was accidentally leaked it did cause a bit of a kerfuffle.

[Bob Jefferson]

[Porty]

superb Bob.You can expect some personal attacks soon!

[Puerto bella]

Bob: 'Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of blueberries'........

[Puerto bella]

who I wonder: 'puts on women's clothing.....and hangs about in bars?'

[Porty]

Elderberries?

[Pal of Porty]

[Puerto bella]

you catch my drift anyhow....

[Doris]

Draft minutes for the emergency PCC meeting available

[geofflynn]

[Porty]

Members of the public are a damned nuisance to John and crew.

[SoupDragon]

[Puerto bella]

We are Soupy, we are.

[Mark Cameron]

Is it just me or do these minutes not really put across the strength of feeling that was on show that night?

For example it doesn't indicate the prolonged thunderous applause following each comment in support of PPAG dropping he appeal.

Nor does it mention Stephen Hawkins being shouted down by the entire room after his ludicrous statement.

Will CEC get a true relection from this account?